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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.
MADJW
Me thinks you are fishing. Seeing what the terrible 'apostates' are saying about you.
Freedom of speach aside, you shouldn't be on here communicating with us anyway.
like your name, that is what i accuse the JW of as well. Absolute supporters of hypocrasy among their own ranks. And don't give me that bull about all being imperfect either. There is a massive difference between making a mistake and malicious actions.
OZ
once again the extremely controlling measures taken by the wt society are evident in the "witness only " nov.15th wt article " treasure your place in the congregation ".
as time goes on the governing body keeps pushing the thought into witnesses minds that the " faithful & discreet slave " is the boss , god, main enchilada , the one through whom rank and file witnesses must answer to in order for jehovah to approve them.
so strap your seat belts on: this should be interesting.. under the subheading " cherish our place- how ?
mr flipper, i like the way you take time to address each posters veiw and questions. Thankyou lots. and yes i hope they will escape too, fortunatley they love that I have the internet!
OZ
Oh, dont worry guys! i aint going back! just curious. They have left me alone and have never thought of returning. I wondered if after a long time they make any other presumptions about my character! or have changed their ideas on my status.
Oz
Gosh darn it! i hate it when i blank post!
Ok, now, the first two years i was just inactive and seperated from the wife. Then 'adultery' led to disfellowshipping. Have scarcley seen a witness since. the last one was an elder doing normal door to door work (lots of others in the street too so i know it was random) identified myself as DF, he asked if i would like elders to visit and i just went 'nah, i'll just argue with them'.
nobody knows i am on here and i have never even talked about it to the kids.
Just curious, am i just a disfellowshipped or have i become apostate to them?
Oz
well, couple days ago i got stuck with a brother doing phone territory!
man, i hated that!
i kept on wishing no one picks up the phone or it's a disconnected phone number or something.
never did it. probably would not have if they had asked either!
as for door to door, after 27 years including regular pioneering, i loathed it. Couldn't wait to stop it. Downright humiliating waste of time.
Oz
once again the extremely controlling measures taken by the wt society are evident in the "witness only " nov.15th wt article " treasure your place in the congregation ".
as time goes on the governing body keeps pushing the thought into witnesses minds that the " faithful & discreet slave " is the boss , god, main enchilada , the one through whom rank and file witnesses must answer to in order for jehovah to approve them.
so strap your seat belts on: this should be interesting.. under the subheading " cherish our place- how ?
Thankyou mr flipper,
I feel the need to know what my teanage kids are being taught. Hopefull my boy is too busy thinking about cars and girls to hear it!
QUESTION; are the study articles also in the public WT but diluted? or does the public version not have those articles at all?
cheers, Oz
well, it seems like that the holy spirit is making its first mistake!
they want to appoint me as a ministrial servant!
i wonder if that means that apostasy while being apointed as a ms is okay?!
interesting... i was 'sinning' when the holy spirit appointed me a M/S about 20 years ago. pipped ya!
actually, reflecting on that all these years later, that is what convinced me that the Holy spirit has nothing to do with appointments. As you may be aware, appointments are approved at branch level by guys at desks. Please men by being a 'company man' and you will go far.
you could stay inside as a spy...
Oz
so far quite dissappointed from what i've seen.
this is very very important, first i"ll address the non/ex jw then i'll address the jw's (jw's scroll down if don't wanna see the first part).
i see so many who have concluded that it was not 'god inspired', a lot of what is being done, and their conscience told them that many things conflicted with jesus teachings and the bible.
OEM. You are plain and simply on the WRONG FORUM. I suggest you find one of the all JW beige cardigan forums so you can gush about it, Goody for you that you worship 'Jehovah'
I for one did not leave because i saw anything wrong with the religion. Boil it all down and i just did not want to be a christian. Now as i have had 10 years to reflect, i will never worship the God of the bible.
Actions speak far louder than words.
The words of god? oh i love you all sooooo much.
The actions of the god of the bible? Killings on a scale that make the Nazi's look like boy scouts. Mass ethnic cleansings. In fact, almost all of his actions through history are a record of temper tantrums resulting in death on a grand scale. As for his 'Armageddon' another excuse for the bullyboy to wipe out billions of people. I dont give a rats ass that its to save the few righteous in his eyes. I for one would not want to live in that new world for sure.
The god of the christian greek scriptures is the same god of the hebrew scriptures, just with a new front man.
If i acted the way god did/will with my children i would no doubt be locked up or fried.
nuff said, go find another place to spout your non-sense
i was so happy when my best friend {a witness} since childhood tells me he has doubts about the org.
and how brothers are "two faced" and the "false prophecies", and how he "needs a woman soon or he'll visit a brothel".... he had not gone to meetings for months and his mum blamed me although he didn't need much convincing.
well we went to the convention to please family and he enjoyed the lavish attention he got from so many "loving" brothers.
wonder what would happen if i turned up at the Kh or circuit ass with my tattoos and mowhawk, driving my hearse with my Rockabilly punk wife?
hmmmmmmm
